What is God?

King James Bible

Colossians 1:16, 17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

If this is true, then God created good and evil. How can good or evil exist except if God created them? How can anything happen that God did not cause to happen? How is it possible to not do God’s will? How is it possible for God to create a man or woman that does things that God did not want him or her to do? If God is sovereign then all creatures are doing his will at all times. I submit that it is impossible to be out of God’s will.

Yet the Bible says:

Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

8 Replies to “What is God?”

  1. Good point. Free Will can not exist if an all-knowing, all-powerful God exists. If God is all-powerful then he already knows the choices you are going to make and ultimately whether he’ll put you in hell or not.

    For me, it all sounds a little made up.

  2. I think the founders of Judaism and Christianity had good intentions. The Bible contains great wisdom and guidance. Some things are just a little hard to swallow.

  3. OK, three points, if you’ll be patient with me: existence of evil, existence of hell, and free will.

    Perhaps evil isn’t something that is “made.” Presumably God is love (well, if God exists, that’s what one hopes), yet love is not something s/he created. If this passage is talking about things as entities, then evil doesn’t have to be something that’s made. I’m not implying that God therefore necessarily is evil as well as good; evil may just be a consequence of creating relational individuals.

    Clearly God (if there be one) did not create everything. God did not create concrete. S/he created the raw materials perhaps, but not concrete.

    Not all Christians believe in hell (Origen, universalists, some emergents)–in fact, some argue that most early Christians didn’t believe in hell (see Wiki: universalism for instance–sorry no link, I don’t do HTML).

    And process/neoclassical theology redefines omnipotence–it does not contain coerciveness, thus free will is possible. (Of course there are other arguments against free will).

    Finally, I’ve never understood how foreknowledge negates free will. Certainly it could be argued to negate God’s kindness (i.e., if there is a hell, and God foreknew that most people–or anyone–would go there, then God was cruel to create the world in the first place–thus the theodicy triad is still a problem). But I can “know” a person is going to do something (though certainly not with the same certainty that an omniscient God would “know”), and I could have had the power to do something about it but didn’t, yet I still will not be infringing on that other person’s choice. Maybe I’m missing some part of the foreknowledge = no free will argument?

    Michelle

  4. God created free will. Through God, I created my children. How boring and unknowing it would be if they did not have free will and I was able to produce only good in them through (whatever) controlling methods. When they come to me choosing good, and having been only influenced by me, is this not ultimate love and knowledge to a parent and child?

    We were made in his image. Yes, he created evil and free will.
    He may not want to hit us over the head with a 2 x 4 to gain the love and ultimate knowledge of our good. We have choices……. and what a compliment to our parent to choose him when we have been given his influence and free will and not total control.

  5. Michelle, what is the source of your contention that God “didn’t create everything”? The Bible clearly says that God did create everything.

    Deborah, why do you believe that God wouldn’t want a boring universe? If God is all-powerful then he has the power to control the choice of people. Thus, free will isn’t possible with an all-powerful God.

  6. 1) I’m not sure that I know God’s definition of boring. Did ya like the
    pseudo-analogy though?

    2) Maybe God utilizes his power to control by giving us free will.

    3) Wassup Da-Veed?

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